Evidence of meeting #39 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was forecasting.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

John Pomeroy  Distinguished Professor, Department of Geography and Planning, University of Saskatchewan, As an Individual
Fortin  Director General, Policy, Planning and Partnerships Directorate, Department of the Environment
Boag  Director General, Freshwater Policy and Engagement, Canada Water Agency
Vu  Director General, Canada Centre for Mapping and Earth Observation, Department of Natural Resources
El Bied  Director General, Emergency Management Policy and Outreach, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Lane  Executive Director, Legislative Governance, Department of the Environment
Aman Deep  Director, Science and Technology Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

In the 44th Parliament, they all supported it.

However, in the 45th Parliament, we unfortunately lost the support of the Bloc Québécois. I hope that this committee will help lead the Bloc Québécois to reconsider its decision.

Eric St-Pierre Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Thank you for joining us. I would like to congratulate you on your first experience with our committee.

The Chair Liberal Shannon Miedema

Thank you, Mr. St‑Pierre.

I'll now give the floor to Mr. Bonin for six minutes.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Ms. Auguste, I would like to congratulate you on your victory and on your election as a member of Parliament. Democracy has spoken.

I'm happy to see you here. I know that our constituencies are neighbours. When you came to my constituency, we unfortunately didn't have the chance to see each other. I imagine that, when you make announcements in the future, we'll likely have the opportunity to talk on the ground.

As you know, the Bloc Québécois obviously strongly supports flood and drought prevention. We're also quite vocal about the need for the federal government to improve its climate change adaptation strategy. It has been roundly criticized, in particular by the commissioner of the environment and sustainable development.

Of course, when we talk about floods and droughts, we're talking about extreme weather events. We're also likely to see more of them as your government moves ahead with the construction of new pipelines and oil and gas production.

In your opinion, does it make sense to propose a strategy to better manage floods and droughts while also building pipelines that will fuel the climate crisis and basically help increase the number of floods?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

Thank you for your question.

I think that it makes sense to address a need identified by a number of Canadians and Quebeckers concerning floods and droughts.

Regarding the other part of your question, I think that it would be necessary to turn to a member of the Privy Council for a response.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Are you one of the 15 or so members of Parliament concerned about the government's approach—

Tim Watchorn Liberal Les Pays-d'en-Haut, QC

I have a point of order on the relevance of the question.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I think that it's in the public interest to know whether our colleague feels concerned about the current situation.

The Chair Liberal Shannon Miedema

Go ahead.

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

Thank you for your question.

The concern that I want to address today relates to floods and droughts. I would like us to stay on topic.

Thank you.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I can see that you might speak up, as another member did. One day, I would like others to speak up.

You said that Quebec environmental groups supported your bill.

Which groups?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

Sorry. I said that Mr. Bexte referred to groups, but I also said that a researcher at UQAM supported—

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

I understood that.

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

—the bill.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Are any of Quebec's environmental groups currently supporting your bill?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

The Mouvement Mères au front certainly expressed support for this bill.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

Has this group formally endorsed the bill?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

Obviously, between the two elections, it was a bit difficult to get things quickly. However, this group expressed verbal support at a meeting in my constituency.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

No other group has expressed support.

We actually want to avoid duplication. In Quebec, we protect the land. The Quebec government adopted a strategy and plan to protect the land from flood risks for the period from 2020 to 2028.

Have you seen this plan?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

I haven't seen this plan, unfortunately.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

You have no idea about the content of Quebec's flood plan or its flood risk strategy.

Is that right?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

I have a general idea, but not specifically for Quebec.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

How do you think a federal strategy would enhance Quebec's current plan?

Tatiana Auguste Liberal Terrebonne, QC

It isn't a federal strategy. This would be a national strategy.

Patrick Bonin Bloc Repentigny, QC

It's the same thing.