British Columbia is a good example. They do have product bans as well, which industry is generally not supportive of, but I would say it's a systems problem, and that's the way to approach this. It's not just industry opposed to the federal government's actions. Governments are involved in the legal suit as well because of jurisdictional authority. Ultimately, the Supreme Court will decide.
This is about collaboration. This is not just about industry. My industry doesn't just produce straws and beer can holders. They are plastics that are used across the value chain. We represent converters. We represent recyclers. We represent technology developers and manufacturers. We represent brand owners. This is not just about straws and other single-use items. This is about thinking about this issue from a systemic approach, and plastics are not the problem. It's what we do with them after they've served their useful purpose that's the problem, and that's what we should focus on.