Without a doubt it is, especially when we're talking about taxpayers' dollars in these huge amounts. There seems to be a contradiction between what Natural Resources Canada has described and predicted in terms of retrofits and what Ms. Papineau just told us about the reality of retrofits. It's almost 60% less than the predicted models have said. She went on to talk about the value for the dollar, especially when talking about affordability, being more on the insulative side for a homeowner in terms of a retrofit, and then maybe thinking about an energy fit either in parallel or even secondary to that. Have you come across that information, that result or that summary?
