Some of our member utilities have done studies. I'm thinking of FortisBC, which conducted a study called “Electrify Kelowna”. FortisBC is a dual-utility electric and gas company. They have the electric franchise in the Kelowna area. They looked at what it would take to electrify 5%, 25% and 100% of Kelowna. The costs to do so are extreme—in the billions of dollars. This is for a city that's just over 100,000 people.
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