As I mentioned during my opening remarks, coordination among federal governments, utilities, provinces and, ultimately, municipalities, which are generally closest to the residents themselves, could allow for a much smoother delivery of programming and for consistency of programming. I think municipalities have tools in their tool belts. You made mention of LIC and PACE programming here in Ontario, which allow for the municipality to play the role of financier, where appropriate, for these kinds of energy-efficiency retrofits and backstop those through the property tax system.
As both of my co-witnesses said, there's a lot of stability there, and there's a lot of risk prevention or risk protection, given that model. I think leveraging those opportunities for coordination would be key number one.
Then, again, it would be just moving as much as possible away from, perhaps, the boom and bust cycle and giving municipalities, utilities and provinces tools to develop more structured blended-finance models to sustain these kinds of retrofit programs in the long term.