Excuse me, Mr. Leslie. I'm speaking.
Those investments come back out of the house when a homeowner sells. In the meantime, they benefit from dramatically lower operating costs.
I'd like to start with you, Mr. Thornell. You previously worked in the city on home retrofit programming. You're now with the Ottawa Climate Action Fund. I'm curious. In your experience in implementing and managing these programs, what changes to federal policies would make it easier for municipalities to deliver energy efficiency improvements faster to more Canadians?