Evidence of meeting #46 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Jenkin  Co-Chair, Consumer Measures Committee, Department of Industry
David Clarke  Co-Chair, Identity Theft Working Group, Consumer Measures Committee, Department of Industry
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Richard Rumas
Nancy Holmes  Committee Researcher

2:05 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

No, we are voting now.

2:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Just a brief response to his....

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

Go ahead.

2:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I think Mr. Martin was making my point. Mr. Martin said any third party would agree it was obvious. I'm not supporting this motion, because in the first motion we were waiting for the independent Information Commissioner to provide his report on whether this is accurate or not.

He was making my point that it should be done by an independent third party, that this committee is not an independent third party, and that's why I'm not supporting this motion, because I think the first motion has more relevance.

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

The question is on the motion as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to)

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

Madame Lavallée.

2:10 p.m.

Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Chairman, I would like the steering committee to meet next Tuesday, so that we can begin our study of this issue.

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

I'm sorry, I won't be available until Monday. We can do the best we can to set up a steering committee meeting for Monday. That will depend on the availability of the members. That's what we'll do.

There may not be a meeting on Tuesday, because we may not be ready to address the issue, depending on what we decide in terms of what we need. But we'll have a steering committee on Monday if we can arrange it.

Before the committee leaves, this motion says:

That the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics urgently address the internal report by the Department of Foreign Affairs....

As your chairman, I view that as a direction that this supersedes any other business we have agreed upon, which would require me to then cancel witnesses who have already been scheduled. Before I do that, I want the committee to know who these witnesses are who have agreed to come and the arrangements that have been made.

Mr. Clerk, would you advise us, please?

2:10 p.m.

The Clerk

On May 15 we have CPIC coming and the Canadian Consumer Initiative; on May 17 the Canadian Bankers Association and ITAC, which is the Information Technology Association of Canada; May 29, Professor Geist, and the Credit Union of Canada, plus the Insurance Brokers of Canada; May 31, the RCMP, the Department of Public Safety, and the Department of Justice. Nothing has been scheduled for June 5. On June 7, we have the commissioners from British Columbia, Ontario, and Alberta.

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

Unless I hear otherwise, I'm going to instruct the clerk to advise these people that they will now be on hold and we will advise them when we are ready to hear their evidence. We will deal with the subject matter of this motion to the extent we feel we can, beginning with a steering committee meeting on Monday.

It may very well be that as a result of that steering committee meeting we may not be ready for a meeting on Tuesday. So I'll have to adjourn this meeting to the call of the chair, and we will have a steering committee meeting on Monday.

Are there any points of order?

Mr. Van Kesteren.

2:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

It's a question. What are we going to do with identity theft? Are we just pushing it forward until this is--

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

At this point it will be on hold until the committee deals with this particular motion, however it may be that we deal with it.

2:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dave Van Kesteren Conservative Chatham-Kent—Essex, ON

However, we are going to deal with it once this is done?

2:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Tom Wappel

Yes. It's not off the table; it's merely postponed until we deal with this motion.

Are there any other points of order?

Okay. I'm adjourning the meeting to the call of the chair, and we will have a steering committee meeting on Monday, provided we have a quorum for it.