I wasn't clear on that.
The point I was getting to was that we believe that there may have been political interference. To put it this way, we heard witnesses testify before this committee—citizens who applied for information under the access to information laws—that they believe there was political interference in the administration of these particular claims, and perhaps there's a pattern or a motif developing here. If the PCO has an “F” in terms of their commitment to freedom of information, I think we have a serious problem, because certainly that is the attitude of this government, and the same culture of secrecy that allowed corruption to flourish under the Liberals seems to be alive and well under the Conservatives, notwithstanding this--