Evidence of meeting #45 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was questions.
A recording is available from Parliament.
1 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Please, Mr. Poilievre, would you allow Mr. Mayrand to complete his answer? It's difficult for the translators when both people are talking at the same time.
1 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
I have a point of order, then.
You have imposed severe restrictions on time here. I just ask that we go right to the answer. The question was whether or not there is anything in the law that suggests, as Mr. Mayrand has stated, that the candidate or official agent must have detailed knowledge of advertising that is expensed to his campaign. I'm just asking him, is it in the law, and if so, where?
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Order.
First of all, since I stopped the clock, you have one minute left. You've called a point of order. It wasn't a point of order; it was debate. Members should know the ruling on that.
Prior to your saying that you had a point of order, Mr. Mayrand was in the middle of responding to your question, and you started to interrupt him. I noticed that the translators couldn't follow who was saying what. I simply ask that you allow Mr. Mayrand to complete his answer before you get on to your reaction or further questions.
So we'll start the clock again. Mr. Mayrand, do you have anything further to say with regard to the question Mr. Poilievre posed to you?
1:05 p.m.
Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada
I will simply refer to previous statements I've made over the last two days with regard to similar questions and point out, again, that the matter is before the Federal Court and will be argued in due course.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
I think you have time for one more question, Mr. Poilievre. It's less than a minute.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
These are all matters Mr. Mayrand himself has raised before this committee. After having raised them, he now says it is impossible for him to support his arguments, arguments that he introduced here and thought were appropriate to bring to this place, because he says they are before the court. In fact, these arguments themselves are before the court. So if that was the reason to exclude them from your testimony here, you wouldn't have mentioned them at all.
Mr. Chair, I'd like to take the rest of my time to officially move the motion I submitted yesterday. It was acceptable for us to move on that motion yesterday, but out of a spirit of generosity, I agreed to give other members a day to consider it. It is a motion that was submitted by Mr. Reid, and I will move it right now. It calls for the....
I have the floor, so I can move a motion.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Order, please.
Thank you, your five minutes are up.
The matter you refer to was already moved by Mr. Reid.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
It has not been moved yet. It's been tabled but not moved.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo
Yes, but it is Mr. Reid's submission, and he would have to do that. But he doesn't have the floor.
We can deal with this. Order, order!
I'm sorry, but the chair has the document from the clerks who keep track of this, and it's the motion from Mr. Reid that deals with the independent investigation of the leak. That's the one we're talking about. That's before us. It is debatable, as you know. I think I understood that you wanted to just move to the vote on that right away. That was your suggestion.
1:05 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
No, just to clarify, I have a superseding motion to move to the motion before you, which is my right under the Standing Orders.
1:05 p.m.
Liberal
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
Well, I did. I already did. I had the floor. I've already moved it. I don't have to move it now; I already did.
1:10 p.m.
Some hon. members
Oh, oh!
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
You don't like the motion, so you don't want to record it.
1:10 p.m.
Conservative
1:10 p.m.
An hon. member
You guys don't like the rules.
1:10 p.m.
An hon. member
You can't get used to the rules.
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An hon. member
Could I have the floor?
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An hon. member
The witness.