Well, we have to make one thing very clear. In the Thyssen company and the companies I represented, of which I was the chairman, we had employees, and they went and made donations on our behalf to fundraising dinners and whatsoever. I, myself, was earlier a member of the 500 of the Conservatives. So how do I know whatever I paid for them? I didn't care.
On November 29th, 2007. See this statement in context.