Evidence of meeting #5 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual
Gregory Tardi  Senior Parliamentary Counsel (Legal), House of Commons
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Richard Rumas

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Schreiber, John Crosbie did an inquiry into the Airbus affair. Did he ask you questions at the time and, if so, what was the nature of these questions?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Could you please repeat that question?

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

John Crosbie investigated the Airbus controversy at the time. Did he ask you questions, and can you recall the nature of those questions?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Is that John Crosbie, the former minister from Newfoundland?

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Yes.

1 p.m.

As an Individual

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

He did not ask you any questions?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

When the RCMP investigation became public, did you inform Mr. Mulroney about it once you learned of it?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I think you refer to the letter of request that was sent to Switzerland.

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Yes.

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes, I informed him, because I was in the office of the lawyers in Switzerland.

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Was there any discussion at that time between you and Mr. Mulroney about the $300,000 in cash payments and how to explain them to the RCMP in light of the investigation?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

How did you meet Mr. Fred Doucet and Mr. Gerry Doucet?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

They were shareholders of Government Consultants International. I think I met Fred Doucet earlier, once in Montreal.

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

What was your relationship with Government Consultants International?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

They were a lobbying company for the Thyssen company. They worked also for MBB, Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm.

1 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

When did you hire that firm?

1 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I have to correct something here. This is a complete misunderstanding, and I'm happy to explain this to you. All this nonsense you read quite often in the papers doesn't mean it is true. All the agreements were between the industrial companies and Government Consultants International. I was in the middle to organize the things and to watch the funds flow, because we had somebody who stole the money.

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

During the 1993 election campaign, did you make a payment to Mr. Marc Lalonde?

1:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

In the 1993 election campaign? No.

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Did you ever make a payment to Mr. Marc Lalonde at any time?

1:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Sure, he's my lawyer.

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Thomas Mulcair NDP Outremont, QC

Did you make a payment to him for $500,000?