Sir, I was bothered with these questions about any dealings. You may recall that it went to the media that I was a witness at the MBB case, and there all these questions came up. I said yes, I had business dealings with him, or discussions. When I was asked what it was about, it was about pasta. But this was many years later, when I asked him to participate in these obesity problems and the pasta problems. So this is why I say Greg Alford knows this 100%. This had nothing to do with 1993, it had nothing to do with 1994, nothing to do with 1995; it started somehow in 1996 or 1997, or God knows when.
On December 4th, 2007. See this statement in context.