Information & Ethics Committee on Dec. 6th, 2007

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

Yes.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Not on the Canadian people?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

No, on the project.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

You then finish that with “and more”. You threaten him in effect with other disclosures that you're going to make. What are you referring to with the “and more”?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

I refer to the whole other situation around the Canadian soldiers, especially the army, and how it threatened the lives of the people in Nova Scotia when I was asked to put ads for our company.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Because he didn't go ahead and support the Bear Head project.

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

Yes. I was asked in front of the--

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

I understand. Any--

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

--to put ads in the paper for jobs.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Was there anything else other than that?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

No.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Do I still have time?

[The Chair, Liberal, Paul Szabo]

One minute.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Mr. Schreiber, you've also told us repeatedly about this $100,000 payment and that it occurred on June 23. I've gone through the material from the fifth estate showing the documentation of the money in the Britan account. The first deposit, the $500,000, did not occur until July 26, 1993, a month after this meeting with Mr. Mulroney.

Either you're wrong about the June date or you took the $100,000 from some other source. The first $100,000 out of that account didn't come until July 27. Which is it? Are you wrong on the date, or did you take the $100,000 from some other source?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

I gave the first cash payment in the amount of $100,000 to Mr. Mulroney on or about August 27, 1993, when I met with Mr. Mulroney--no, no, this is something else. Oh yes, it was at the airport hotel.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

That was the first $100,000.

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

Yes.

[Joe Comartin, NDP, Windsor—Tecumseh, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Paul Szabo]

Thank you.

Mr. Hubbard.

[Charles Hubbard, Liberal, Miramichi, NB]

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

We've heard a lot about success, and probably as a business person, Mr. Schreiber, you were very successful. You came to our country as an immigrant. By the early 1980s you had become friends with Frank Moores. You were involved with getting rid of Joe Clark. You saw your friend Brian Mulroney as Prime Minister. Things were going very well for you.

In fact, they improved year by year until the company that you were associated with got a contract for some 34 aircraft, and over $1 billion was involved. Along the way you had to be friends and be involved with a good number of people. I have some difficulty with success and who got money because of what the success was in terms of that sale.

I was also intrigued, Mr. Chair, with Harrington Lake. Harrington Lake became a centrepiece of all of this. You were very much attached to the Conservative government. You were from Bavaria--quite a conservative area of Germany. You came here with great respect for conservative values. With that, Mr. Schreiber, you had great influence.

Was the visit to Harrington Lake in 1993 your first visit to Harrington Lake?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

Yes.

[Charles Hubbard, Liberal, Miramichi, NB]

A Mr. Doucet came to you and indicated that Mr. Mulroney, the Prime Minister of Canada, wanted to meet you. You must have been elated. Here's the Prime Minister, inviting you out to his great resort to meet with him and maybe some of his friends to discuss what Mr. Doucet defined as a “money issue”.

When you met with Mr. Mulroney, who else was present?

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

There must have been some servants. His wife was not there. At least, I didn't see her. But nobody...we were alone.

[Charles Hubbard, Liberal, Miramichi, NB]

The two of you were there alone.

[Karlheinz Schreiber]

Yes.