Evidence of meeting #8 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Sukh Dhaliwal, I'll now move to Mr. Tilson, please, for ten minutes.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Mr. Schreiber, you've produced a number of documents and you've produced something today, which members of the committee have yet to see. Do you have any other documents in your possession, or through your counsel or through your agents anywhere, that could substantiate some of the things you are telling the committee?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Well, sir, you've made a number of allegations and a number of statements.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Perhaps you could look at the documents I brought today.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I appreciate that you've given us some, sir. I want to know whether there are any other documents you may have that could substantiate the information, the allegations and the statements you've been making to this committee.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

It depends what it is, yes. As I've told you, my lawyers are packed with all this material, because it's part of my lawsuit.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Your answer to that is yes, sir?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

When will we get those?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Well, we've discussed this already, and I spoke to....

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

No, we haven't, sir. My question to you some time ago was on whether you would produce all of your documents. You've produced some, and you're now telling us there are more documents. I'm specifically interested in the documents you have that relate to the statements and information you're giving this committee.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes, that's a problem. I selected those, and I'm looking for those, and I continue to do so.

I can tell you quite frankly, sir, I spoke to my lawyer and he asked what the hell I would do with all these documents, the legal stuff. When you look at what is relevant for your questions and the committee, it would not help you.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Sir, I'm specifically asking about the documents you have to substantiate the allegations and statements that you're making. Do you have those?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes, that is why I was asked at the beginning to look at my files and to prepare myself to bring to the committee important material that is relevant to you. What can I do?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Well, sir, you've had two weeks.

I'm simply asking you this again. We'd like those documents, the documents you undertook to produce to us. My question is when will we get those documents?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I continue, but allow me to tell you that I do not have 24 hours a day for only these things. I have to live also. Do you understand?

I've tried my best, and you better look at this first. If the committee wants more on this, I can probably produce more for specific questions that you want and need. Otherwise, with the time you have available, this brings you nowhere.

I am here to help you. I'm not against you.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I hope so.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Well, I asked for the inquiry. You are obviously against it. That's a problem.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Sir, I'm simply asking for the documents. But it appears that you're flustering on this, so I won't proceed any more.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Let me tell you something. Do you know how the whole business happened, the Trojan Horse, why Max Ward got domestic charter flight rights?

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I've read that, sir.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Do you know all that?

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

I don't want to talk about the Trojan Horse. I want to talk about this inquiry.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Do you know that today the same people look for the same big money, with the same procurements? This is what you should look at.