I think the first time it was $25,000, and then, as I explained to you, I made this Port Atlantis deal with Mr. Moores to enable him to have more cash, but what the cash in detail was used for, I don't know. They only told me later on that they had to pay for Wardair and the people going to Winnipeg.
On December 11th, 2007. See this statement in context.