Evidence of meeting #35 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was report.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jacques Maziade
Suzanne Legault  Interim Information Commissioner, Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada
Andrea Neill  Assistant Commissioner, Complaints Resolution and Compliance, Office of the Information Commissioner of Canada

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Conservative

Bob Dechert Conservative Mississauga—Erindale, ON

But it is the first time we've seen it in writing.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Was it circulated to members?

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Conservative

Bob Dechert Conservative Mississauga—Erindale, ON

It's the first time I've seen it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Dechert has the floor. Your point of order, sir.

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Conservative

Bob Dechert Conservative Mississauga—Erindale, ON

I believe that this is the first time any of us has seen it in writing, and Mr. Martin's not here to move it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

It's been moved. That was already ruled on at the last meeting, sir. It's in the transcript of the meeting.

Do you have the transcript here, sir?

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

I do.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

You do? Maybe that would be helpful to Mr. Dechert.

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Conservative

Bob Dechert Conservative Mississauga—Erindale, ON

Can you explain the process?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Sorry, no.

Mr. Siksay, would you please read the extract from the transcript of the last meeting?

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NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Yes, Chair. It's on page 25 of 34 in the record of the last meeting. It's actually you reporting what Mr. Martin submitted, that it was moved “That the committee reports to the House its profound disappointment with the response of the Minister of Justice to its 11th report entitled “The Access to Information Act: First Steps Towards Renewal”.”

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

And if it goes on....

The question about, when Mr. Poilievre was proposing another motion...I had to interrupt him, because, unfortunately, we cannot entertain a second motion when we have one on the floor.

So it actually was on the floor.

We're resuming debate at this point.

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Conservative

Bob Dechert Conservative Mississauga—Erindale, ON

Do we not need to see this in writing in order to continue debating?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, because when you are at the committee table, you can actually move a motion orally. It's acceptable orally, and only in one official language.

Is that correct, Mr. Poilievre?

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I don't have the Standing Order in front of me.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Okay.

We'll certainly check that out, but members who are sitting at the table can make a motion related to the business of the day that is in front of the committee. It doesn't have to be in writing. There's no notice requirement. It can be made right then and there on that day.

That's exactly what Mr. Martin did when he was here substituting for Mr. Siksay, who was unavailable to be here.

We do have this motion from Mr. Martin. I asked for it to be circulated to the committee.

Mr. Del Mastro.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, this will be brief--very brief.

Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, the meeting started about 15 minutes late. I just noticed you checked your watch. I hope you're not going to bang the gavel at noon, as the meeting was late in starting.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

First, it's not a point of order. Second, the committee schedule was for 9 until noon. Members make their arrangements and obligations. The reason for the delay had nothing to do with the committee. As you know, it was a technical problem. That's unfortunate, but I cannot say to the members that I'm going to make it up on their time.

But the chair would entertain a motion either to adjourn right now or to extend this meeting a further 15 minutes, if that was the amount. I'm open.

It wasn't a point of order. You got the floor by saying it was a point of order, but I understand.

Mr. Del Mastro.

Noon

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to put a motion on the floor that, seeing that the committee was delayed due to unforeseen technical circumstances this morning, we extend the meeting by 15 minutes.

Thank you.

Noon

Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I believe there's already a motion on the floor that we're looking at.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

This is a procedural, it's like....

This in fact is not debatable and a vote has to be put.

Is that correct, Mr. Clerk?

This is to change the order of the day and the timing of the meeting and it's self-explanatory. It's like moving for an adjournment. Effectively, this is to move an extension, so that's in order.

Shall we extend the meeting by 15 minutes to make up the time we lost?

All those in favour of extending the meeting?

(Motion negatived)

We will not extend the meeting.

Given where we are, we're adjourned.