Evidence of meeting #17 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was requests.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tom Makichuk  Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Jackie Holden  Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Ann Wesch  Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Privy Council Office
Monique McCulloch  Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Denise Brennan  Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Treasury Board Secretariat
Donald Lemieux  Executive Director, Information, Privacy and Security Policy, Treasury Board Secretariat

12:10 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Jackie Holden

With respect to the handling of access to information requests, we have a very well defined process and procedures in place within our department. As I mentioned earlier, we have two reports that we generate on a weekly basis to ensure full awareness and a no-surprises environment within the organization. As a result of that, there is early notification to all branches, regions, senior management, and the minister's office of upcoming events and upcoming releases.

We find that serves us very well. There's no differentiation or categorization of types of requests as such. We treat all requests in the same manner and respect the legislation and the timelines that are in place. In terms of the information that we share up, the reports serve us well in terms of laying out the timelines for the release of each request, and we work with communications, as I mentioned earlier, through our weekly meetings to determine whether or not media lines are deemed to be of interest or need to be developed. But that's not our decision to make within the access to information area. We just make the reports available.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

You said none of them are categorized or.... I forget which exact word you used. You don't deem any of them sensitive, then, as we have heard from another department?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Jackie Holden

That's correct. Within the access to information division of HRSDC, we do not make that determination. We have our weekly meetings, at which point, if communications, parliamentary affairs, and a representative from the minister's office are in attendance, if there is an interest in that meeting in having media lines developed, our communications branch is responsible for the development of those lines, working with the responsible program area or region.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

That happens at or after the weekly meeting.

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Jackie Holden

That's correct. We do it early in the process, so that we are able to meet our legislated deadlines.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

What are your deadlines? How long do you have to respond to a request?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Jackie Holden

We have 30 days to respond to a request. And we have assigned times within our department for the scoping and collection of records within the responsible area, be it a branch or a region, that's deemed to be the holder of those documents. Then there's the processing and the actual review of the materials by our division and our experts in our ATIP division to see if there are any necessary exemptions or exclusions that are required.

Then the package is provided to the lead assistant deputy minister or regional head for review, for seen-and-noted signature—not for approval but for seen-and-noted signature—to ensure that they're aware of what materials are scheduled for release. Then it's our decision and we move forward with the release of the package under my full delegated authority.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

What happens if you receive a request that isn't relevant to your department? Do you automatically refer it on to whomever it does apply to, or do you turn it back?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Jackie Holden

We always would check to see if it seems likely that there would be another government department that would have the relevant information, and we would contact that department—that happens relatively frequently—to make sure the requester receives service.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Thank you very much.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

Mr. Siksay.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Makichuk, I want to come back to the issue Mr. Easter raised about the advance notice you were given of some questions from Mr. Poilievre. You confirmed that you had received advance notice of some of those questions or all of those questions?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

Yes, I received a document earlier this morning.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Who did you receive that document from?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

The document was passed to me by my director general.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Did that document also include suggested answers to those questions, Mr. Makichuk?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

No, there were no suggested answers.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

It's just a list of possible questions that might come from the government this morning.

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

It was simply a list of possible questions.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Okay. Was it identified as possible government questions, or just general questions that might come up at the meeting this morning?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

I can't recall that detail.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Have the questions that were on that document come up from other members this morning, or specifically from Mr. Poilievre?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Tom Makichuk

The only questions that I recall receiving from that list came from Mr. Poilievre.

12:15 p.m.

NDP

Bill Siksay NDP Burnaby—Douglas, BC

Ms. Brennan, did you receive an advance notice of any possible questions this morning?

12:15 p.m.

Director, Access to Information and Privacy, Treasury Board Secretariat

Denise Brennan

No, I did not.