Evidence of meeting #20 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

We are on the motion, but it is related to the subject matter.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

We are on what motion?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

The motion just made by Madame Freeman, which we've been discussing for a little while here.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

I'm sorry, but I don't know what that motion is. I thought we were discussing this.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Yes, we are, but during her intervention she made a motion that we hear another witness, Mr. Walsh, with regard to the implications. She feels we need to know a little bit more about the consequences of failure to appear, which may affect our report.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Then, Mr. Chair, if we are debating a motion, I need to see that motion, or at least to hear it clearly.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Okay, order.

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Bloc

Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

I just said it. We do not need to....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Madame, it's okay. We've already been through the thing about oral motions.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

That's why I said “or hear it clearly” from the mover, please.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, no, I will tell you what it is.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Are those your words or her words, Mr. Chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

I'll tell you the motion that the clerk wrote down here.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

That would be wonderful, thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

The motion is that the committee call Mr. Walsh, the law clerk, to explain to the committee the consequences of failure to appear or honour a summons.

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

The consequences of what?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Failure to appear before a committee or—

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Gee whiz, maybe the clerk hasn't got it written down.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Well—

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Conservative

Patricia Davidson Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Amazing. Could you please read your motion to me, Ms. Freeman?

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Bloc

Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

The motion is exactly what the chair just said.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

All right. I think she wants to hear Mr. Walsh as another witness next Tuesday.

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Bloc

Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

We want Mr. Walsh to appear before the committee to explain the consequences of witnesses failing to appear when they have been duly summoned by the committee. So we want the expert law clerk to come and explain all the consequences to us and enlighten the committee.

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An. hon. member

Sure, we do.