Mr. Chair, I agree with at least one thing that was in this statement and question that the member had. That is, that the ethics of the individual and all the individuals responsible for administering the wall are critical to it. So I agree with that. The purpose of the statute.... Common sense protection of my reputation and the reputation of the Prime Minister are absolutely critical. So this matters to me and it matters to the government. We will get it right.
Ethical walls—they go by different names, but “ethical wall” is certainly a name I've heard many times in the private sector—are very important, because that is actually how you communicate to a broad and complex organization what can and can't happen. Ethics on their own are not good enough, Mr. Chair. What they need is a system of administration to ensure that information flows properly and that where someone is unable to participate in a discussion, that someone being me, someone else knows about that and will participate in that discussion.