Okay.
Is it the value of a lunch? Is it a ticket to a fundraiser? Is it a ticket to a hockey game? That has to start with you yourselves. This is one of those rare opportunities where a parliamentary committee is examining rules that apply first and foremost to itself rather than to common folk. I think that's where that discussion has to start.
Whatever the level is, we will advise our members to follow it, but any room between what a lobbyist can offer under the Lobbying Act and what an elected member can accept under the Conflict of Interest Act is just going to be a recipe for confusion. Again, think very carefully about the charities and the fundraisers in your ridings. Do you want to have to ask someone who invites you to come to the Kiwanis dinner whether they're a lobbyist? If someone says they're having a United Way fundraiser, do you want to have to get a legal opinion on whether that person works for the United Way as a lobbyist, because in their capacity as a United Way executive they ask the government for financial benefits? In going to that dinner in your riding have you just accepted a gift from a lobbyist?
We need clarity on all these things. But, again, the first question needs to be what are you comfortable with?