Evidence of meeting #101 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was work.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Zackary Massingham  Chief Executive Officer, AggregateIQ
Jeff Silvester  Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

10:30 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

Not for client purchasing, but for licensing. We have not been able to do that yet.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

You haven't approached any political parties?

10:30 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

We've approached people, and we have had someone who we thought was going to move forward with it. They opted not to, and recently we had a few more and they've opted to delay for the time being.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

Obviously you would be discreet and not share with the committee who those potential clients might have been?

10:30 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

We do owe confidentiality to our clients.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

Yes, I understand.

Thank you.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Zimmer

Thank you, Mr. Kent.

Next up for five minutes is Mr. Saini.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

Part of what has transpired has been because of one survey, but I'm sure multiple surveys occurred. Has there been any data transfer between Cambridge Analytica and AIQ not only on this topic, but on other subjects?

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

I don't think so, no.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

So there has been no data transfer of information?

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

From Cambridge Analytica?

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

From Cambridge Analytica.

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

No, not from Cambridge Analytica.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

I have in front of me testimony from Brittany Kaiser who was the former director of program development at Cambridge Analytica, and this is the testimony she gave in the House of Commons committee. MP Ian C. Lucas asked her, “Did you know that Cambridge Analytica had an agreement with AIQ to transfer data?”

Her answer was, “We would have had that, because that would have been essential to our work on Senator Ted Cruz's presidential campaign”.

Is that incorrect?

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

The work we did on Ted Cruz's campaign was through SCL, but at the time—

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

Just to remind you that she is the former director of program development at Cambridge Analytica.

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

I'm aware that SCL had some relationship with Cambridge Analytica.

I don't know the extent of that relationship.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

She's confident that there was an agreement between Cambridge Analytica and AIQ to transfer data.

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

We have no agreements with Cambridge Analytica.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

She says, “We would have had that, because that would have been essential to our work on Senator Ted Cruz's presidential campaign”.

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

We have no contracts with Cambridge Analytica.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

Then MP Lucas on a follow-up says, “Can you confirm that Cambridge Analytica transferred data to AIQ?”

Her answer was:

...the essential relationship between AIQ and Cambridge Analytica—or the SCL group—was that AIQ had built platforms that we used to collect data, so we would have had to transfer data between ourselves for us to access that.

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

As I mentioned, we did create that software for SCL and we talked about that earlier, the political customer relationship management. That platform would track that, if candidates were going door-to-door, making phone calls, this sort of thing.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Saini Liberal Kitchener Centre, ON

You are saying right now that you received no transferred data from Cambridge Analytica?

10:35 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, AggregateIQ

Jeff Silvester

I'm saying we received information from SCL, but not from somewhere else.