When the crisis hit, my partner and I took a decision. We said we don't want to lay anybody off, but we have 750 people—we have an enormous payroll—so we started taking a lot of actions. Well, there were two people who got laid off. My partner and I actually took our salaries to zero.
We cut expenses such as travel. That turned out to be a moot point because travel was cut for all kinds of reasons anyway. We said no more travel; we used to pay for people to take courses, so we cut courses; we cut matching your RRSPs, so we would say we could keep everybody. We then remortgaged all our buildings, extended our line of credit and put a pile of money to say we're going to get through this thing together, as a team.
Then Mr. Jamieson said that we had to start buying parts in the United States. I said we had some money but we could not risk our company. That money was there to get us through this COVID crisis. We needed an advance. If you want us to go out and start doing all this work, buying the parts.... The parts were going like hotcakes and the prices were exploding. It was a crazy time. We could not use that money, so we needed an advancement—