First of all, I'm trying my best to respond to the questions and reconstruct a sequence of events.
I apologize to the members if I have events of five years out of sequence and if my testimony, which happened twice, was before or after other events. I don't have the chronology clear in my head. If I mixed it up, I apologize to the committee.
You're talking, I presume, about my first appearance at the justice committee, or are you talking about the...?