Evidence of meeting #125 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was anderson.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kirsten Poon  As an Individual
Stephen Anderson  As an Individual

Noon

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Mr. Anderson, you are a self-admitted liar. You lack any credibility whatsoever. It really begs the question how much Minister Boissonnault paid you for your silence.

Noon

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

Mr. Chairman, I have—

Noon

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

How much did he pay you?

Noon

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I have not had any communication with Minister Boissonnault.

Noon

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You've had only one other partner in your entire operation with GHI and GHS. You've confirmed that is Randy Boissonnault.

The word “partner” in all of these email exchanges was never autocorrected, was it?

Noon

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

There was no email communication.

Noon

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

In the text messages. In those text messages, the word “partner” was never autocorrected, was it?

Noon

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

It was not referring to Randy Boissonnault.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

You've had unusual contract wins. You've had half a dozen lawsuits, nearly $8 million in court-ordered debts, civil allegations of fraud and a fire 16 days after at a warehouse by three arsonists. Yesterday, we learned you got into business with a Dominican drug dealer.

Nobody believes you. No one at this committee believes you. Canadians don't believe you. Fess up. The jig is up.

The only other “Randy” that was, according to you, autocorrected nine times, was in fact Minister Randy Boissonnault. Admit it.

Stephen Anderson

Mr. Chairman, it was not Randy Boissonnault.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Who was it?

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

As I said in my opening statement, I am happy to provide the name of the individual in question—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

That's not good enough.

Ghaoui's understanding, according to their communications—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Thank you, Mr. Brock.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

—with you—

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative John Brassard

Mr. Brock, your time's up.

We'll go to Mr. Naqvi for five. Go ahead. I'll then have two and two left, and then we'll call it a day.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

Thank you very much, Chair. I appreciate the time.

There are a lot of different facts going around, and I think that's creating some confusion. I just want to make sure that I put this on the record again.

It's clear that Minister Boissonnault has provided his text messages to this committee, and they showed no phone calls, no text messages and no WhatsApp messages to Mr. Anderson. Those are before this committee.

I also understand that when it comes to GHI, reading the media reports, the minister has unconditionally surrendered for cancellation his shares in the business. In other words, he's not sold them. There was no monetary gain from the disposal of his shares in the company, and that's been reported in the media as well. I think it's really important that we have that clarified.

I will go to Mr. Anderson. Sir, I agree with some of my colleagues' assertions that you're creating a bit more confusion than is necessary in answering the questions. You have testified again and again that the Randy mentioned in the text messages in question is not Randy Boissonnault. That relationship ended in September 2021.

The question, then, is who are you talking about?

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I've said over and over it is not Randy Boissonnault. It is actually a female who worked in our organization and was heavily involved in managing the day-to-day business.

She is going through her own ordeals and she has asked us not to reveal this, based on the assertions of what she has seen me and Shawna go through. That is why I have said I would be happy to give that information in camera, knowing that person is not going to go through the same thing we've all endured.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

Okay, so you are willing to share that information. You're trying to protect, for personal reasons, an individual who you are now saying is a female. Thank you for sharing that information.

In an answer to my colleague Mr. Bains, you agreed to provide that information in writing. Would you confirm that you will provide the name of that individual in writing to this committee?

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I will provide the information if it's in camera, yes. For sure.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

You earlier agreed to provide that information in writing. Are you agreeing to provide that information, the name of that person, in writing to this committee?

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

I'm not sure if I would.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

You're not sure. So the only way you will provide this information is in camera. That's what you've suggested.

12:05 p.m.

As an Individual

Stephen Anderson

That's correct.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

I think that's what's creating so much—