Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Wernick, I'm sorry that we weren't able to consult the documents you submitted. We'll have them tomorrow, as the committee chair mentioned.
If the information I'm about to ask you about is already in your documents, just let me know.
I wanted to ask you about this. Since you indicated agreement with Mr. LaPointe on the idea of both a help desk and a reverse onus, to what extent do you think that having that reverse onus on disclosure would help to increase the ATIP process, improve it?
Also, I'd like to ask you the question I asked Mr. LaPointe. What are the models that you see internationally that Canada should be looking at? You mentioned how we do records management, and I quote the word—I have it in yellow and circled—“shambolic”. I appreciated your comments on that. Is that part of the problem, that compared to other countries we don't do a good job of managing documents?