Again, since my appointment in 2018, I have received 12 phone calls about receptions and whether lobbyists can offer them or not. They know that even if I say not to offer it, if you can accept it, they can do it.
When people call us and ask if they can offer a $25 breakfast, we will usually say yes, but if they ask if they can give a $50 breakfast, and we say no, whether or not that has any weight is zero, because if they offer you the $50 breakfast and you eat it and nobody comes to tell you that you shouldn't have, it goes unregulated.
It is very difficult to give advice right now when I have to rely on all the other regimes. Again I repeat that it's not just you members; it's all public servants, who are all subject to different codes. There is a code of values from the public service, but each department sometimes has its own code.
There are challenges with respect to certainty, and then how am I supposed to find someone in breach of that rule?