Okay.
We've heard that over 200 members, as I believe you've mentioned, have been advised about the rules around this before they leave, but that how many come back and actually check if they're in compliance or not varies.
In 2017, for example, the former Harper government Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec, Denis Lebel, was appointed CEO of the Quebec Forest Industry Council. Did this member reach out to the conflict of interest or the lobbying commissioners' offices to ensure the appointment was compliant?
That is for both of you.