Yes, I do think the advice brought up in 2013 and again in 2018 is probably right. That is, you need to look through ownership structures. I think my colleague also suggested that. You need to have some sort of indirect ownership. It's possible that there is some understanding of that, but I can see that becoming a more robust definition. Again, it's family, friends and relatives, but you have to understand who has the beneficial ownership of things. That's a complex thing to do when ownership itself is complicated. I would say that's a good place to put energy.
