I think it's a very good question.
If I may, being someone who believes that the public service is the highest form of service we can do—and I deeply believe that—I congratulate and thank every member around the table for doing this. It's a tough job. It's demanding, but it's so important, and I think it's going to become more important.
The situation we're going through at the moment is historical and it's unprecedented, like the Clerk said yesterday, since World War II, but important decisions need to be made. More and more, decisions involve the necessity to have the public service and the public sector work with the private sector and all stakeholders to make sure we can make things happen and we can deliver.
The biggest issue to me, in my mind, for our institutions is our ability to deliver what the citizens need in this environment. It's about delivering services to citizens. The biggest threat to our institutions is the perceived inability to deliver for citizens. This is where, whatever you conclude, Mr. Chair, in the work of this committee, I think you have to make sure we encourage the interchangeability and that actually happens more rather than less.