Therein lies the challenge.
I want to point out one thing, Madam Chair. My recommendation dealt with political staff. Keep the five-year ban on ministers. They tend to take care of themselves. I was just focusing on that level.
I guess it comes down to whether rigour equates to better. If we collect targeted information, that's good. If we collect 10 times that information, is that good?
In the example you gave, back to my point, if you're the one who set that meeting up, right now you can have whatever conversations you want. You can ask them whatever questions you want. You can lay out the government's plan and get their feedback, and whatever relationship you have with this person, that's fine.
Under that change, that's no longer the case. The person you're having that conversation with, who you may or may not think is incompetent, may legally have to go on a website and record what happened and, in very general terms, what you talked about.