Mr. Hardy, I have great respect for the work of all the commissioners in the lobbying sector. I think they play a very important role.
If they decide to push the envelope as far as they can...because it's their job to say what, to them, is the perfect world.
For us, as we hear the examples.... Where we find ourselves in difficulty is that we would then be diminishing the engagement of individuals, companies and organizations with the government, and that's not what we want.
In the case of the examples given—