It's a great question. There needs to be a line created. That line, for years now, has been created on oral and arranged communication, for the right reasons.
If I set up a meeting with you, Mr. Cooper, and I lobby you on X, Y or Z, there's a formal agenda. We've both agreed to participate in the activity of my lobbying you or advocating on behalf of a different industry or different professionals. I put in a communications report, and the commissioner could call your office and ask, “Hey, did Mr. Cooper meet with Mr. Larkin on June 1, 2026, to discuss X, Y or Z?” Your staff or you would have notes that we did meet, and you can confirm that. The commissioner does spot checks like that with public office holders.
If we eliminate the need for oral and arranged communication, all of a sudden, not only is there a plethora of extra communications reports coming into the office, but designated public office holders now would also need to recall every interaction they've had with a lobbyist at Tim Hortons, a reception, the airport, etc., in which that individual brought up a bill, a regulation, some kind of program or something else. That's where I find there's an issue in which things grow.