Unfortunately, it's impossible to believe because of the decisions he's made to this point. We're left to ask for the receipts. Show us who was there. We need to know.
Some of the questions we've examined today are about how we can improve on the act so we can know who knows what. When is the screen being triggered? What decisions has he recused himself from? We don't know. Again, we're left to take him at his word.
The question about tax havens today wasn't just conjured up out of thin air. It's because we know that Mr. Carney put together funds in his role as chair at Brookfield Asset Management that were in tax havens.
I can't believe this is someone who is altruistic and solely focused on what's in the best interests of Canada, when he thought, “What would be best for us is what's best for Bermuda. Let's headquarter this business down there above a bike shop and make sure we're not paying our fair share of taxes in Canada.” That doesn't sound like someone who has a good level of focus, so we have to press and we have to ask the tough questions.
It should be pretty up and down—a vote on something like this. You would think it could pass. Again, I've been here for a minute, and I've seen filibusters move from the back burner to the front burner. I can't sit here while we just cycle through speaker after speaker who just wants to say that everything is great and we should just let things slide and take him at his word.
I don't take him at his word. I would like to see the receipts, as we said. If this was a good-faith exercise from the Prime Minister's Office, they would have furnished them to the committee. They did not. We're asking for the rest of the information. It's not too much to ask. It's actually the least they can provide to Canadians.
If the conversation has to continue, we can continue it, but it's about improving the safeguards, improving the shields, so that Canadians can have confidence in elected officials and can have confidence in Parliament.