That is why I drew attention to a provision that you may not have heard properly, so I'll say it again.
In paragraph 4 of chapter 3 of our guide—which deals with paid lobbying, for the benefit of the researchers after this meeting—we do address exactly that point. We say that if you are, for example, a landlord or an employee of a landlord but you are making a point that benefits the industry as a whole because it's an industry-wide policy point, then you are not regarded as seeking a benefit on behalf of your employer. That concept, I think, can be enlarged to meet the point that you are making.
I take the point that interests are more complicated than they once were. It is possible to find ways to allow people to deploy their experience of the real word, if you like—the commercial world, or whatever it is—and balance that with their service of general public policy and service of the public as a whole. Those are techniques that one can use in order to strike that balance.
