Thank you. That's fine.
I'll give you a specific example of the kind of thing that one can do, and it will be quite a technical example, having talked about a focus on principle. Let me give you an example of something fairly technical one can do to meet exactly the point that you raise.
If you look in our guide to the rules related to the conduct of members—and I say this for the benefit of research by clerks after the session—you will see there is footnote 43 on page 26 that talks about blind trusts. That is a specific way we ensure that continuing interests of members, ministers or officials can be hived away so that they don't fall but they do not influence their continuing behaviour. Blind trust is just one example of the kind of activity one can deploy to ensure there is a disconnect between having a financial interest and being motivated by it in one's public behaviour.
