Evidence of meeting #4 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Gosselin  Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal
Sandra Wing  Senior Deputy Director, Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada
Paul Dubrule  General Counsel, Legal Services, Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Paule Brunelle Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

So there is no organization in Canada with a mandate to try to see how we can adapt the economy to the new realities.

Do you rely on university research chairs or other organizations of this type?

May 15th, 2006 / 4:20 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

I cannot answer that question. All I know is that we do not do this.

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Paule Brunelle Bloc Trois-Rivières, QC

That is not your mandate.

Thank you.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Mr. Harvey.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

What is the dollar value of the imports that come under your jurisdiction?

4:20 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

We have not done that calculation. We look at cases one at a time, but we have not added up the dollar value of the cases we have dealt with over a particular year.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

So you cannot tell me what the percentage figures are for the section for which you are responsible. I suppose you don't have any idea about that either.

4:20 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

We could say that under certain conditions, all imports could be subject to the tribunal.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

How much money are we talking about? It must be hundreds of billions of dollars.

4:20 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

You said that you had 78 requests for review last year. Those were requests that came from companies or associations which thought there was a dumping or improper trade practice.

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

No. I believe there was confusion. The figures we can give you...

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

How many requests did you receive this past year?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

Concerning dumping and countervailing duties, for 2005-2006, we heard 18 cases, 234 appeals, 9 safeguard enquiries and 67 complaints on government contracts. That totals 328 cases.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

Do you think that number is high or low, in proportion to Canada's total imports?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

Why do you think it is low? Is it because your organization is not well known? Is it because people do not know they can file a complaint? What explains it?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

I think that is a small percentage of Canada's total trade is affected because in most of business deals, people do not complain. We are increasingly moving towards free trade and people believe that they do not have any reason to complain.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

Your mandate is to take on a more reactive role, rather than a proactive one. Do you think it would be useful to have an emergency intervention team ready to decide on which types of businesses or industries should be subject to an inquiry or a review, in order to determine whether or not there was dumping?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

No. We are only able to react after the fact, because that is our mandate.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

Would you like it to remain that way?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

I cannot answer that question. It has no bearing.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

In your opinion, would it be useful to create such a team?

4:25 p.m.

Chair, Office of the Chairman, Canadian International Trade Tribunal

Pierre Gosselin

The evolution of the global economy, as shaped by the WTO and bilateral accords, is reflected in what we do. I do not believe that an emergency team is required.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Harvey Conservative Louis-Hébert, QC

I am asking you that question because you predict a 20 per cent decrease in requests for inquiries for the years 2005-2006 and 2006-2007. If you think that there are not enough cases and you forecast an additional 20 per cent reduction in the number of cases, it is because something is going on.