Evidence of meeting #24 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was position.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

William R. Young  Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament
Allan Darling  Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament
Jacques Sabourin  Acting Director General, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament
Joe Wild  Executive Director, Strategic Policy, Corporate Priorities, Planning and Policy Renewal Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Marc O'Sullivan  Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office
Benoit Robidoux  General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Katharine Rechico  Chief, Expenditure Analysis and Forecasting, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Okay, so what's the next step now? Are we going to give the green light for the Library of Parliament to hire this person, or do we have to wait? I'm still not clear on that.

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office

Marc O'Sullivan

The recommendation has been made by the selection committee to the government, and the government is proceeding with that appointment. As I said, there have been discussions with the candidate on issues of remuneration and classification of the position. Those discussions are not yet completed, but we're hopeful—

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

When do you foresee those discussions being completed?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office

Marc O'Sullivan

Well, we're trying to complete them as soon as we can.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

But is there a timeframe?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office

Marc O'Sullivan

We'd like to get this done in the next couple of weeks, before the end of the month.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Okay.

Just quickly, Ms. Rechico and Mr. Robidoux, has there been any input from the Department of Finance regarding this position?

4:40 p.m.

Benoit Robidoux General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Do you mean regarding the process?

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

I mean both on the process and on what the parliamentary budget officer is going to do in the role.

4:40 p.m.

General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Benoit Robidoux

There hasn't been, not on the process and not on what he's going to do, no.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

So what input did you have in this whole process?

4:40 p.m.

General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Benoit Robidoux

Well, this was an item in Budget 2006. It was put in the framework in the “other items” part of the act, and our work stopped there.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

And there was no other input given by Finance through the other department.

4:40 p.m.

General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

4:40 p.m.

Katharine Rechico Chief, Expenditure Analysis and Forecasting, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Just on that, I am aware that the search firm did contact the Department of Finance, at least one person in Finance, to discuss the characteristics that would be needed in such a person, as might be expected of an executive search firm. It would look to the Department of Finance as a guide to the type of person you might require.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Okay, but you gave no details in terms of what the job would entail and what interaction there would be between the parliamentary budget officer and the Department of Finance.

4:45 p.m.

Chief, Expenditure Analysis and Forecasting, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Katharine Rechico

That's correct. There was no interaction at all that way.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Okay.

How much time do I have?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

You have 10 seconds.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Okay, I'll wait.

Thank you.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Thank you very much.

We'll go to Monsieur Crête, and I believe you're going to share your time.

4:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

An acting director of public prosecutions was appointed.

Mr. Wild, in point 10 of your brief, you state: “An acting director has been appointed, pending a permanent appointment to this position.”

Is it because the act allowed an acting appointment there, but did not allow the appointment of an acting Parliamentary Budget Officer, or is it because the government chose to appoint an acting director in that case but not in this one?

4:45 p.m.

Executive Director, Strategic Policy, Corporate Priorities, Planning and Policy Renewal Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Joe Wild

In terms of the director of public prosecutions, it's a specific statutory provision. The act that created the office of the director of public prosecutions contemplated that there would be an acting appointment because the specific process to select the candidate who would fill the position for the seven-year term.... It's a very complicated search process that involves a number of stages.

4:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Would something have prevented the appointment of an acting Parliamentary Budget Officer, when we know full well that the acting appointment would last only until such time as a permanent appointment was made? Could the government have done that?

4:45 p.m.

Executive Director, Strategic Policy, Corporate Priorities, Planning and Policy Renewal Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat

Joe Wild

There's nothing in the statutory authorities around the parliamentary budget officer to appoint somebody on an interim basis. There is a specific process set out in the act as to how the selection is to work.