Evidence of meeting #24 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was position.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

William R. Young  Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament
Allan Darling  Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament
Jacques Sabourin  Acting Director General, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament
Joe Wild  Executive Director, Strategic Policy, Corporate Priorities, Planning and Policy Renewal Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Marc O'Sullivan  Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects Secretariat, Privy Council Office
Benoit Robidoux  General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Katharine Rechico  Chief, Expenditure Analysis and Forecasting, Fiscal Policy Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance

4:20 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

Last year we saw $250,000 in our supplementary estimates to assist us in setting up the office, but because that did not happen, we returned that money. It lapsed, and we have funded all the activities related to setting up this office internally.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Do you have an actual office location for such an office?

4:20 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

Currently most of the library staff are housed at 50 O'Connor. I sent a letter to the deputy minister of public works as soon as the officer was included in the Parliament of Canada Act, and we currently are going to be getting additional space there for this.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

If it happens to get reclassified, will it require a whole new round of applications and search?

4:20 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

I don't believe so. I will let Mr. Darling explain, as he's been in charge of the selection process.

4:20 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

I think the search process was very thorough, and it canvassed the community of people who would have the skills and ability to undertake this function. Changing the classification wouldn't change that pool of candidates.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Thank you.

We have six minutes left, and I'm going to split it in the last round between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

Go ahead, Mr. Pacetti.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I want to get two points in, and again I want to get to the structure, but before that I want to address Mr. Darling's points, both when I asked him the question and when Mr. McKay asked a question.

Again, I see this as being totally independent, but I see the parliamentary budget office preparing fiscal forecasts and, along with that, some economic analysis.

4:20 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

If that is where the committee indicates to the officer they wish him to undertake endeavours, I think that is consistent with the act, because he does respond to requests from committees.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

But it's not just about economic analysis, because we can get that from--

4:20 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

No, it can be a study of anything.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

We're looking at fiscal forecasts; that's key.

Mr. Young, I think you mentioned it, but did you interpret the act to say that it was independent, or how did that come about?

February 13th, 2008 / 4:25 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

The library is independent.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

I understand that, but in terms of legislative authority, who does the top person at the Library of Parliament answer to, the Speaker?

4:25 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

I am responsible to the Speaker of the House of Commons and the Speaker of the Senate.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

So wouldn't you think a position such as this would have been under the responsibility of the Speaker of the House?

4:25 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

Well, he is.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Who would have interpreted it that it had to go through...? I'm not familiar with the act. Does it say in the act that the House leader decides?

4:25 p.m.

Parliamentary Librarian, Library of Parliament

William R. Young

Yes, it does.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

With respect to structure, in your paper you discuss two levels I'm not familiar with: EX-3 and GCQ-5. What is the difference in salary?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

An EX-3 is paid $5,000 more annually than a GCQ-5.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

And the range would be...?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

I don't have the ranges, but those in the GCQ classification, because it's a Q classification, are not eligible for performance pay on top of the base salary.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Are we talking $100,000, $200,000, $2 million?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Special Advisor, Parliamentary Budget Officer Project, Library of Parliament

Allan Darling

A GCQ-5 could go to $145,000, approximately, but you will have PCO people who are....