Evidence of meeting #53 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was colleges.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Tyler Charlebois  Director of Advocacy, College Student Alliance
Shannon Litzenberger  Executive Director, Canadian Dance Assembly
Andy Manahan  Executive Director, Residential and Civil Construction Alliance of Ontario
Paul Charette  Chairman, Bird Construction, Employers' Coalition for Advanced Skills
Pamela Fralick  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Healthcare Association, Employers' Coalition for Advanced Skills
Linda Franklin  President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges Ontario
Lucy White  Executive Director, Professional Association of Canadian Theatres
John Argue  Coordinator, Ontario Coalition for Social Justice
Mark Chamberlain  Member, National Council of Welfare
Robert Howard  President, Canadian Institute of Actuaries
Michael Shapcott  Director, Affordable Housing and Social Innovation, Wellesley Institute
Nimira Lalani  Research Associate, Wellesley Institute
Robert Mann  President, Canadian Association of Physicists
Dominic Ryan  President, Canadian Institute for Neutron Scattering, Canadian Association of Physicists
David Adams  President, Association of International Automobile Manufacturers of Canada
Peter Carayiannis  Director, Legal and Government Relations, Canadian Association of Income Funds
Jim Hall  Vice-President, Sales and Marketing, Hoffmann-La Roche Limited
Ronald Holgerson  Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology
Deborah Windsor  Executive Director, Writers' Union of Canada
Steven Christianson  Manager, Government Relations and Advocacy, March of Dimes Canada
Larry Molyneaux  President, Police Association of Ontario
Wayne Samuelson  President, Ontario Federation of Labour
Bruce Creighton  Director, Canadian Business Press
Etan Diamond  Manager, Policy and Research, Ontario Municipal Social Services Association
Janet Menard  Board Member, Commissioner of Human Services for the Regional Municipality of Peel, Ontario Municipal Social Services Association
Bruce Drewett  President, Canadian Paraplegic Association
William Adair  Executive Director, Canadian Paraplegic Association
Richard St. Denis  As an Individual
Doris Grinspun  Executive Director, Registered Nurses' Association of Ontario
Judith Shamian  President and Chief Executive Officer, VON Canada (Victorian Order of Nurses)
Christopher McLean  Director, Government Relations, Canadian National Institute for the Blind
Allyson Hewitt  Director, Social Entrepreneurship, Social Innovation Generation

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

When you say that Mohawk College has perhaps not received its fair share, I imagine that you mean compared to the other public colleges.

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

Compared to the other public colleges and to our competitors.

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

With private colleges too?

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

No. As far as I know, perhaps one private college, Redeemer College in Hamilton, has received a little money, but most money is spent in universities and the public colleges.

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

What are the main programs you offer?

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

We have programs in health sciences, in engineering, in business, and so on. Public colleges in Ontario offer programs in all imaginable areas. We have more than 110 programs that lead to careers in all areas.

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

Do you also have general, pre-university programs?

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

No. In Saskatchewan and Alberta, colleges provide two years of education before students go into university. But in Ontario, colleges are institutions where the programs usually lead to jobs.

2:20 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

Okay, they are self-contained programs. Great.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is all.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We'll go now to Mr. Wallace, please.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you for coming. I'm going to do some rapid-fire questions. I don't think I'll get to everybody, but I'll do my best. I'll start with my friends from Mohawk College.

Obviously you applied for the KIP program and you didn't get it. What isn't getting built?

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

Expansion of the facilities to take in more students at the Fennell campus and at the Brantford campus will not take place. We've grown significantly at the Brantford campus and we just applied last week to the southern Ontario development program governed by FedDev. The principal campus is the Fennell Avenue campus, and we are not able to expand opportunities for students in engineering technology, human services, and health sciences.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Those programs would have benefited the most if you got extra money.

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Okay. I may come back to you, but let me ask you something right now. Getting new capital is one thing. Then you have to operate the place. Would you have had the operating money in place to be able to operate?

2:20 p.m.

Vice-President, Advancement and Public Affairs, Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology

Ronald Holgerson

Based on the expansion involving individual students for whom we get tuition and the government grant on a first-student basis, the answer is yes.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Thanks very much.

I have a question for the Writers' Union of Canada. I'm very interested in the taxation for the grants, the ones that keep you alive for a little while. What's that amount? Does Margaret Atwood get that, and the guy in my own town? Who qualifies, and how much is it? I have no idea.

2:20 p.m.

Executive Director, Writers' Union of Canada

Deborah Windsor

They are small amounts--well, they are not that small: they can go as high as $10,000.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Do you mean annually?

October 21st, 2009 / 2:25 p.m.

Executive Director, Writers' Union of Canada

Deborah Windsor

No, it's one shot, one time. It's for writers who have to identify that they are working on a work and that they need money to buy time to write it. That money is used for groceries and rent.

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

That's per project.

2:25 p.m.

Executive Director, Writers' Union of Canada

Deborah Windsor

Yes. It's very competitive.

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Then you pay income tax on that annually.

2:25 p.m.

Executive Director, Writers' Union of Canada

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

I'm interested in that, so I appreciate your bringing it forward, because I had never heard of it before. I've been on this committee for three years in a row now and I don't think I've seen that one brought forward before, so I appreciate it.

I have a question for the March of Dimes. I appreciate your submission on the taxation issues for business. I completely understand that, but I'm going to ask you a different sort of question, if you don't mind.

Some people who came to my office relatively recently have issues with the definition of “disability”, because it doesn't apply to them. They don't feel it applies equally to everybody. Some disabilities are identified and some aren't; it depends on the doctor you may have. Are your clients having issues with that? I just happen to have a little run on that in my office.