As far as quantitatively trying to determine the optimum level, that came out of a recommendation from consultation with fire chiefs across the country. However, as previously indicated, in our dialogue with the finance department we indicated that we were absolutely open to having other thresholds so that we can recognize the invaluable contribution to those in smaller towns, villages, and so forth.
The commitment that the Canadian Association of Fire Chiefs makes to government is that we will work with the finance department to find that optimum solution. So whether it's at 200 hours or a variable of that, we will be mindful of that in our dialogue with the finance department. At this juncture it's about getting unanimity of mindset that this is the right thing to do for the Canadian fire service and for the safety and security of Canadians. That's where we're focused today.