—and they're a burden on society.
The last question I have time for I want to direct to the Canadian Public Works Association.
We were told at one point, and, Mr. Chairman, I don't know whether I got the number, but it's something like that the deficit in infrastructure spending in Canada is somewhere around $125 billion. The point made was that if we didn't start to address the infrastructure deficit, it would start to have a creep effect on GDP; in fact, that GDP growth would decline by measurable amounts. This caused them some serious concern.
I wonder whether you share that, because if we're going to get out of this mess, GDP has to grow.