--that resulted in that figure, and we have not been provided with that, nor has the PBO.
In terms of the issue around consulting with the department, I find it curious, in a sense, that the department or officials who have been told that this is a cabinet confidence are going to now appear before committee to divulge what they've been told by the political end is a cabinet confidence.
I share the views of my other colleagues in the Bloc and the NDP that this has gone far enough and we can move forward.