That's accurate, and the numbers range, but there is some agreement in the literature on it being anywhere from 60% to 70%. Even the research papers sent out by the provincial finance ministers based on Mr. Baldwin's report indicated that it was anywhere from 50% to 60%.
These are not numbers on which we can actually make a judgment. That is for the pension summit. However, the point remains that whatever the number is, we're not meeting those targets at the present time, and something needs to be done to ensure that we have those kinds of savings.