Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Hamilton, I want to continue along the same lines. I find the idea of preferred creditors especially intriguing. Earlier, I saw Ms. Marin's reaction when you were talking about the minimum interest income rates necessary for pension plans to survive. Ms. Marin is here to tell us about a human tragedy. Obviously, it is not interest rates that will save her life. So if I were in her shoes, I would hope to hear something to the effect that numbers are all well and good, but there is also a human element.
That brings me back to my initial question. Would the idea of preferred creditors—and I am picking up on Mr. Paillé's question a bit—really serve as a deterrent for companies that wanted to continue creating jobs and providing adequate pensions to their employees?
Do you follow me?