You spoke of balance, Dave, and I think that's what we need. We can't mortgage the environment totally for the economic development of today. I don't think anybody in the mining sector is saying that, or any of the forward-thinking industrial sectors. We need to start to make those shifts, and that's what it is about.
The jobs that we speak of here, including my sector, can help provide for the social kinds of things that are referenced here. That's the balance that we need. And I think there is a green side of it as well as the traditional industrial side of it.
Could I also say that if Ontario is the example--