That's exactly the point. We have a very well-managed, very serious plan in the Canada Pension Plan, and that's why we as the opposition keep coming back to it. We don't see the PRPP as a significant answer to the problems that are very real. You talk about them on the government side, very sincerely I'm sure, but we don't see the answer in the PRPP. We see a partial answer, yes, for some. If we could find a way to get the people into the Canada Pension Plan who have been excluded over the years—the farmers and the people we're talking about. And if we want to really sit down and look at the pension system of our country, then let's really take a look at the things we can do in a broad sense.
There is no better plan in much of the world, in terms of how it's managed and the returns it gets, than the Canada Pension Plan.
Ms. Byrnes talked about the fact that some 70% of employers would contribute, or some figure close to that.