Finance Committee on March 15th, 2012

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Yes, Mr. Chair. Clause 203 currently contains the following words: "…after consultation with the superintendent…". We propose replacing those words with the following: "…by the recipient and with the approval of the…".

So I propose that Bill S-5, clause 203, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 87 with the following:

by the recipient and with the approval of the

Since we're talking about confidential information, we find that the word "consultation" isn't specific enough. We would like a more transparent and formal process that also creates a collection of records to protect that confidential information. That's why, instead of a consultation process, which is not the same process and doesn't necessarily create a collection of records, we are proposing a process of approval by the superintendent.

Mr. Chair, we have seen today that there should also be an amendment of clause 223 on page 101, line 11, because in the proposed subsection 45.2(2), the expression "consultation with the Superintendent" should be replaced with "with the approval of the Superintendent". Unfortunately, we missed this in the drafting stage. You should know that, if this amendment is passed, another amendment will follow.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Thank you.

Is there further discussion?

Ms. Glover.

[Shelly Glover, Conservative, Saint Boniface, MB]

Thank you once again, Mr. Julian.

I understand your intention to improve the process very well. However, you are forgetting one issue in particular; it's the council in place that has to make these decisions, and the superintendent's approval hinders the council's ability to do its job.

For that reason, which I think is a very good one, we are not going to support your amendment. I'm sorry.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Thank you, Mrs. Glover.

Are there any other comments?

Okay. We shall move to...

Did you want a recorded vote?

[Brian Jean, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Okay, on amendment NDP-9 we will have a recorded vote.

[Brian Jean, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB]

Actually, Mr. Chair, I wasn't looking for it on amendment NDP-9. I was looking for it on the main motion. I'll let this vote go ahead.

I apologize for that. I'm more interested in the clause, not the NDP amendment.

(Amendment negatived)

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Shall clause 203 carry?

[Brian Jean, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB]

That's the one I was looking for a recorded vote on.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

We'll have a recorded vote on clause 203.

(Clause 203 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

Now, Mr. Julian, you indicated that you had an amendment for clause 223.

Is it consequential?

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Well, it was only consequential if the first amendment had been adopted, Mr. Chair, so you can ignore what I said.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

I never ignore what you say, Mr. Julian. I pay very close attention to you.

Can I deal with clauses 204 to 225, then?

(Clauses 204 to 225 inclusive agreed to on division)

Shall the short title carry?

Mr. Julian.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I don't have all the documents today, but there is clause 212 on page 93. It's the last amendment that we proposed.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Did you say clause 212?

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

I didn't have an amendment for clause 212.

[Scott Brison, Liberal, Kings—Hants, NS]

Mr. Chair, are we talking about the title now?

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

We dealt with the clauses to clause 225, and Mr. Julian was under the impression.... In fairness, we did deal with those clauses.

We dealt with clauses up to 225, so we're on the short title now.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Yes. Mr. Chair—

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Is this on the short title?

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

No. I apologize.

We're dealing with an issue at report stage, so I will simply put that aside.

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Okay.

Shall the short title carry?

(Clause 1 agreed to on division)

[The Chair, Conservative, James Rajotte]

Shall the title carry?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[An hon. member]

On division.