The officials are here for clarification and explanation. They can respond to this, but if we want to get into arguments that are more political in nature, I think we should leave them to members of Parliament, unless the officials wish to respond.
We could have a very long debate on this matter. I'm not shutting it down, but my sense is....
On the first one, Mr. Julian has himself on the list to speak next.
Can I go to Mr. Julian and then call the question on this? Or do you have more points that you want to make, Monsieur Giguère?