That's technically a point of debate.
I'd like to get to the witnesses. I'm just saying as your chair that the quicker we get to the witnesses the more time we will have with witnesses and officials. We can carry on this debate all night.
I have Mr. Brison to finish, then Mr. Marston, Mr. Jean, and now Ms. Nash.
I'll just say to members that the time we do this is time we take away from questioning witnesses, which, in my understanding, all of us want to do—