I'll come back to you, Mr. Thurlow, if I have a bit of time.
For the Calgary Chamber of Commerce, regarding net benefit, we have been asking for a long time for the government to actually give a definition or a clarification. In this case, with the deal with Progress and with Nexen, there were some losses in the markets, and some pension funds lost money on that front too. Do you think those moneys might not have been lost if we had a clear definition of what net benefit is?